Episode #256 of the @professorpennpodcast. David sits down with a Hmong clan leader — the son of General Vang Pao — for a deep, powerful conversation about community, history, and the future of political engagement in Minnesota. Together they break down why citizens getting involved at the precinct level can change the direction of politics, and why the Hmong community’s voice matters now more than ever. They explore the roots of the Hmong people, their ancient ties across Asia, the strength of their military history, and the role Hmong fighters played during World War II and the Secret War. The discussion moves from their journey to the United States to the growing influence of the Hmong community across Minnesota today.