Ep 88: The future(s) of work - with guest Perry Timms

2026-05-08

In this episode of Beyond Potential, Tom Mason is joined by Perry Timms, founder of PTHR, global speaker and author. Perry shares his perspective on how leaders are approaching the future of work, and where many are getting it wrong. The conversation explores the tendency to look for a single answer, when in reality there are multiple possible futures, each shaped by different choices and conditions. The discussion focuses on the shift from traditional job structures towards more dynamic,...

In this episode of Beyond Potential, Tom Mason is joined by Perry Timms, founder of PTHR, global speaker and author.

Perry shares his perspective on how leaders are approaching the future of work, and where many are getting it wrong. The conversation explores the tendency to look for a single answer, when in reality there are multiple possible futures, each shaped by different choices and conditions.

The discussion focuses on the shift from traditional job structures towards more dynamic, human-centred ways of working, where skills, capability and energy take precedence over rigid roles. Perry also highlights the increasing complexity leaders face, balancing legacy systems with emerging ways of working, and why this requires a different mindset.

A key theme throughout is the changing role of the leader, moving away from having the answers, towards creating the conditions where answers can emerge from across the organisation.

This episode offers a practical perspective on how leaders can navigate uncertainty and rethink how work is designed.

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