Ep 103: Who owns the land: Marx, Hoppe or Crazy Horse?

The Mindcrime Liberty Show discusses who owns the land by using three figures to represent differing positions: Karl Marx, Hans Hoppe and Crazy Horse.  We argue that there is much overlap between the Marxists and Hoppean position as opposed to the Crazy Horse position. If in order to own land one must mix one's labor with it, then there is no way that Crazy Horse, or any nomadic group, could own all the land.  Marxists themselves, as much as they ridicule libertarian property theory, have a kind of ownership theory themselves which has more affinities than commonly thought as Hans Hoppe demonstrates in his lecture what Marx gets right. 
If laborers are entitled to the full value of their labor, as well as the means of production which in this case includes the land, then there is no room for absentee landlords.  The Marxists analysis arguably leads to the politically incorrect conclusion that the hunter gatherer natives are absentee landlords engaged in hoarding and monopolizing large swaths of valuable land which isn’t theirs. This is especially true if Left Libertarians want to advocate open borders in the current existing society on the grounds that there is open land considering that in the past more “open” land was available.  Even if the natives could demonstrate they own the land, which for much of it would be rather difficult, the current existing landowners tend to be the best land users. The conflict between a more technologically advanced society and a nomadic one is a conflict which arguably the Marxists are on the side of Columbus, Custer and numerous others.  Karl Marx praises the breakdown of rural idiocy which in this case could well include the natives. University of Washington Professor Stuart Reges was arguably channelling Marx when he said “[the] Coast Salish people can claim historical ownership of almost none of the land currently occupied by the University of Washington”.