Ep. 13 - Evidence Will Sometimes Break Your Heart (and That’s OK)

Evidence is evidence, right? Binary. Black and white on paper. Well, not really. “Evidence-based” isn’t as simple as people would like to make it out to be. And, if you truly want to be objective and find real answers, you must be open to the idea that your assumptions may not hold up while simultaneously maintaining an openness to learn.

Prolific researcher Micheal Sandbank, Ph.D., joins Lindsey to discuss what “evidence-based” really means. They examine what makes a good study, what quality research entails and ask, “evidence for what exactly?”

The two talk about how evidence is being used as ammunition in the autism care industry and how people’s strong, unchanging convictions are creating camps in the field – a schism that is hurting kids and families in need.

Dr. Sandbank is a professor at the University of North Carolina and the lead of Project AIM, a comprehensive meta-analysis of all non-pharmacological interventions designed for young autistic children, which was selected as one of the ‘Top Advances in Autism Research’ by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. You can find her research here.

Micheal was a keynote speaker at Catalight's virtual Elevate Your Impact conference earlier this year. The virtual event, occurring next on March 12 and 13, 2026, is open to everyone around the world with continuing education opportunities for those who qualify. Learn more or register here: https://elevateyourimpact.org/. You can also apply to be a speaker here: Call for Papers - Elevate Your Impact: Evidence in Action