Can you be racist at 40 and not know?

2025-07-21

Can you go through life thinking you're kind, open-minded, and still discover a racist within you at 40? In this bold and honest conversation, we sit down with our friend and psychophonetics counsellor Natalia Cervinkova, who bravely shares her personal story of uncovering deep-seated racial bias within herself: something she didn’t even realise was there. We talk about: Why this is more common than people think How racism and unconscious bias works The difference between being “not racist” and being a...

Can you go through life thinking you're kind, open-minded, and still discover a racist within you at 40?

In this bold and honest conversation, we sit down with our friend and psychophonetics counsellor Natalia Cervinkova, who bravely shares her personal story of uncovering deep-seated racial bias within herself: something she didn’t even realise was there.

We talk about:

Why this is more common than people think
How racism and unconscious bias works
The difference between being “not racist” and being anti-racist
And most importantly - what needs to change if we want to raise better humans and build a better world together

This episode isn’t about blame - it’s about courage, self-reflection, and change.

It’s raw. It’s uncomfortable. And it’s exactly the kind of conversation we all need to have.

With love,
Ivaana & Yaw

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