Justin Brown, CEO of the Center for Public Sector AI and former Secretary of Human Services for the State of Oklahoma joins the show to level-set on where things stand with AI adoption in government—especially at the state and local levels. From small-scale AI implementations to larger strategic trends, we explore how emerging technologies are reshaping service delivery across health and human services. We also discuss the evolution of leadership conversations around AI, how states are approaching policy differently, and the rise of lightweight, outcomes-focused use cases.