In this episode, they guys talk with former Hasbro employee Rich Schad who worked on the Joe line during The Rise of Cobra. He talks to us about some of the work he did, some of which we saw, and sadly, some of which we didn't see. Ever wonder why the Rise of Cobra boxes were oddly shaped? Ever wonder what happened to that rumored IG v Steel Brigade set? You'll find out why from Rick. All in all, its a very interesting look into a side of our hobby that is not often talked about. In the news, Retaliation W3.5 and W2 Kreons finally hit the shelves, new premium 12" figures hit in the form of Sideshow Storm Shadow and Hot Toys Joe Colton, and friend of the show Chris (aka Mysterious Stranger) talks to Hasbro's Derryl DePriest at SDCC about the future of the line. Before wrapping it up, the gang dives into the mailbag once more to answer your burning questions. It's episode 85 - and you know what that means...the guys talk about 1985 Joes. Find our our favorites from this era. All this packed into 2 hours! Enjoy!