Connor and I tackle the almost nine minute-long song "Fin" by Anberlin and end up rambling about lots of other things as well. The lyrics to the song and the writer's meaning behind it can be found here. And here's the link to the page with all of the song meanings. We also referenced our third episode, which you might want to check out if you haven't already. Oh, and here's Caleb's favorite book and his website.