A conversation with Dr. Charles Kesler, editor of the Claremont Review of Books and professor of Government/Political Science at Claremont McKenna College. We discuss Kesler's forthcoming essay "Donald Trump and the Conservative Cause." Moving forward, how might the Trump Phenomenon connect with conservatism? A sketch of preliminaries to placing Trump in context with the Framers, the Constitution and American political history. With music and listener calls.