Carolyn and Pegi Eyers discuss her work and her book, Ancient Spirit Rising. We are the generation that has to bring the truth of colonization out into the open, learn the truth about white supremacy, racism, slavery, genocide, oppression, assimilation, white privilege, white fragility, features of the colonial apparatus such as cultural appropriation, and pass those truths along to our white cohort. “Co-existence through co-resistance” and ally-ship with First Nations instead of tokenizing, stereotypes and abstract theories. Working toward the goal of healing our fractured relationships with people of colour, learning good intercultural competency skills, and actualizing the related visions of restitution, reconciliation and peaceful co-existence.