On this week’s episode, Jessica talks with Norwegian pop star Bertine Zetlitz. Bertine is well known for her musical career, but she is also a dedicated Ashtanga teacher and a life-long meditation student. The women talk about what a yoga “practice” means to them, what meditation feels like, and how to define what it means to be a yogi, according to your own rules. Bertine talks about growing up meditating from a young age, and the example her parents gave her with the practice. The conversation gets transparent and raw when both teachers talk about the importance of naming and exploring so called “negative traits” in themselves, as a way to integrate the lessons of meditation into your life.