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Hello, everyone, my name is Earl Breon, and you are listening to the burden of command podcast. I'm a former active duty United States Marine with over 25 years of coaching and mentoring experience across the military, civilian federal service and private sectors. I'm a lifelong learning enthusiast when it comes to leadership. And this podcast is just an extension of that pursuit. My goal with each episode will be to bring you great content from leaders across all spectrums of the word leadership. Leadership is a complicated venture, you're dealing with complex people, on complex teams, in complex organizations, and complex situations, you have to know how to interact with each one of these elements and the appropriate way at the appropriate time. In order to achieve success, lead your team well, and it's a glorious thing, fail in any one aspect, and it will be disastrous. This, dear listener, IS The Burden Of Command."
Hello, everyone, my name is Earl breon. And as you may have noticed, by the Opening Music there, I'm going to be your host for this burden of command podcast. Now you get to know a little bit about me in that opener. But I wanted to take time and do an introductory episode. So you get to know a little bit more about who I am.
So as it says, I'm a former active duty United States Marine. That's not where my leadership journey started. My very first leadership position, I was actually about 15 years old. And it was put in charge of a group of men who were literally twice my age, I think the youngest one was about 34. And that was kind of a trial by fire for me in leadership, because I mean, just imagine being a 15, getting ready to turn 16 year old, having a bunch of grown men under your command, if you will, and trying to get them to to actually listen to you.
So I had to learn a lot about the influence piece of leadership. But it wasn't something I had learned. I didn't go to the library and pick up books, it was just some things that I had picked up naturally knowing how humans like to be treated. And it worked. Then I went on after that job and joined the Marine Corps is I turned 18. And that was where I was introduced to a set of principles and traits that define all good leaders. And I got to go into that list. And there the introduced it to us the 11 principles and the 14 traits. And it hit me yes, these are the things that every good leader I've worked for have possessed. So I use that list of principles and traits, it's kind of a checklist for me to try to make sure that I'm living up to that.
Now, the one question I asked every one of my interviewees is, what is the burden of command to you? And the reason I ask that question is because it's going to mean something a little bit different to everybody, depending on their background, their current situation, you know, current situations that they're they're facing with team members, even they could change from day today. And I want to get that snapshot of what it means from leaders who have been there who have been where you're at, and and have lived, what you're living right now. You know, when I talk to somebody from the military, the burden, the command is going to mean something a little bit different than when I talked to somebody in corporate America. But what you're going to notice is my theory anyways, is you're not going to see a whole lot of difference between the two, there's gonna be some subtle differences, they're going to be some nuance to it. But by and large, I think you're going to see that leadership that burden of command is very similar across all spectrums. You see, there's a large segment of the of the leadership world that doesn't want to touch military leadership, because they see it as too strict, too rigid to command and control.
And that's simply not the case. You know, sure that that exists in the military, no doubt about it. But just like it exists in corporate America, those people aren't really leaders, at best their managers. true leadership is really going to be about the people. And when I asked the question, what is the burden of command? Most of my guests already enough recorded about the first four or five episodes at this point. It's all about the people, it's about taking care of the people. And it's the same for me, if I asked myself, What is the burden command mean, to me, it's that responsibility for my people, the people that I'm in charge of that is the biggest burden of command. And responsibility is a burden.
That word was chosen very deliberately. Now, that doesn't make it a bad thing. And not all burdens are bad thing. You know, if you're, if you're married, and you have a family, you have a burden, to take care and provide for them. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a negative thing. For some people, that may be the case. But by and large burdens don't have to have a negative connotation. A burden, a responsibility, could be something that motivates you to be better, do better. And that's when I really believe the burden and command is that when you come to grips with your responsibility as a leader, is to take care of the people in your charge. That motivates you to want to be a better leader that motivates you to want to mimic all of the greatness leaders that you have had in the past that motivates you to want to do the right thing, because it's the right thing that motivates you to want to stand up against the wrong things because they're wrong, and they're going to create harm for your team.
So I don't want you to think about the burden of command is something negative. As we go through this, you'll see, by and large, that the burden is positive. It's an anchoring force, it helps you have a point to be able to weigh decisions against what is the burden of my command? And how do I fulfill that responsibility to the people that follow me.
So my journey around that has been, I've already talked about being in the Marines. I've already talked about being in federal civilian service after getting out of the Marine Corps. And so for the last, you know, 25 years or so, I've been really impressed in that leadership, management, coaching and mentoring roles, from the military to the federal civilian service, even in the private sector. I've seen a lot, I've worked with a lot of different disciplines. And I've had the pleasure of working with some really, really great people. I love the coaching and mentoring aspect of what I do. I also love the teaching aspect. But my favorite is the coaching and mentoring.
I'm a problem solver by nature, I like to work with people to help them solve their problems, and nine times out of 10, it helps me solve some problems that are going on in my own life. So that's what I do. I'm a coach, I'm a mentor. And I work with I work solo. And I work with a partner in a company called the leadership phalanx p h, a la x. And we do a lot of training. And we talked a lot about leadership, and belonging, Enos and inclusion. And I know that sounds like some touchy feely stuff for a marine to be talking about, and my business partner is an army guy. But these are the things that successful organizations do. So you can dismiss them as touchy feely if you want. But successful organizations do these things. But I also do some things on my own. And that's mainly the coaching and mentoring, we do a lot of teaching and consulting in that capacity. I do a lot of coaching and mentoring a private capacity. So that's something that you're interested in, you got the email address email@example.com, that's firstname.lastname@example.org.
And reach out to me and we can work about setting up a mentoring or coaching program depending on what your needs are. mentoring and coaching are different things real quick, men, mentoring is going to be more of a long term relationship will get on a little bit more of a personal level. And, and really tackle like an overall change, whereas coaching is going to be something that's gonna be little bit more targeted. So you got a big presentation coming up, or you got a big team that you're leading, and you need help leading that team. We're going to be laser focused on helping you improve those skills. So again, burden dot command at gmail. com is the best way to reach me if you're looking for some, some coaching or mentoring.
You know, with that, my hope is for this podcast, I'm going to start out with an episode every two weeks to begin with, because I'm actually launching it kind of a bad time right now. Because most of the people I want to get on the show are actually out doing doing their thing. They're out speaking, they're out teaching, they're out consulting. And it's been a hard time right now kind of getting the the catalog shows up and running. But I have been able to get enough to get going on on a bi weekly basis.
My hope is to go to every week in the future. My first bunch of guests are really great. My first, my inaugural episode, if you will, I've got Mr. Dov Baron, who's one of the top leadership minds in the world is voted by several entities that track such things. I've got Miss Judy Hoberman, who talks about women's leadership. I've got Colonel Don Taylor, who is just a fantastic gentleman to talk to he's he's been in the theater in the Middle East, experienced a lot of things in the medical profession. And he's just got a lot of wisdom to share. And the fourth official episode is Colonel Lee Ellis, who was a former Hanoi Hilton prisoner of war. And he's written a couple of great books that we talked about in his episode. And he's got a great insight into that burden of command just based off his experiences alone in Vietnam, and handling that.
So that's my first four guests that I've already got in the books in recorded. I'm hoping to, to have quite a few more to add to that list coming up very shortly. But that'll get us out there to Episode Four. And on a two week basis. I'm from Tennessee, so my math, Tennessee math tells me that it's going to be two months.
I've got a lot of targets on the radar I'm hoping to get Jocko Wilink on here, but he's kind of the unicorn because he's so busy. I've got Jim Bouchard lined up. Jim Bouchard is the the sensei leader movement guy you probably heard a lot about if not need to look him up. He's a karate legend, really. He's in the karate Hall of Fame. And he has a great business going around teaching and speaking about discipline and leadership and all those things. See who else we got on the line? Actually, Alex Armstrong, his wife and kind of the the woman behind the man and he's the man behind the woman, they have a great relationship of supporting each other. But she is a she's a force in setting up speaking engagements. And we'll learn a lot from her and her perspective on the burden of command. So I got a lot of great guests. Some of them you may have heard of some of them you haven't. But we're going to change that right. And if you have somebody that you think would make a great guest for this, once you hear how the how the episodes go. Again, reach out to me burden command at gmail. com let me know who you would like to see on this podcast. Feel free to give me any feedback. Let me know what's going on what you'd like to see changed anything. So I'm not going to belabor the point anymore. You know who I am now you got a pretty good idea of who I am, what the idea of this podcast is going to be.
I'm going to go ahead and stop running my mouth and I'm gonna let you go ahead and slide into that first inaugural episode with Mr. Baron. Hope you enjoy. Feel free to send me feedback. email@example.com. I'm out.
All right. Thanks for tuning in. You have any comments or questions for me or my guest, or you would like to suggest a future guest? send them to me at firstname.lastname@example.org. Be sure to rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice. I look forward to speaking with you again. In the next episode.
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