In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright speaks with Michael Toguchi, Chief Strategy Officer at Tectonic, about why digital transformation is ultimately about people, trust and leadership, not just technology. Mike shares insights from 25 years working with mission-driven organisations, exploring how better systems, governance and AI readiness can reduce complexity, support teams and help organisations focus on meaningful impact. From breaking down silos to designing around people and trust, this conversation looks at what leaders need to protect as they pursue efficiency, automation and change.