Ep. 18 — When Therapy Isn’t Enough: How Psilocybin Can Help You Break Through with Mikki Vogt (Part 2)

Last week I told you about my own experience with legal psilocybin-assisted therapy in Colorado. This week, you get to meet the woman who held that container: Mikki Vogt.

Mikki is a licensed counselor who trains psilocybin facilitators. She also co-founded one of Colorado's first licensed psilocybin healing centers and has been integral to building Colorado's regulatory framework — and this is the first time she's sat down for a long-form public conversation about how psilocybin therapy actually works.

If you're curious about the emerging field of psychedelic-assisted healing, you're getting a rare, behind-the-scenes conversation with a working practitioner about how psilocybin-assisted therapy works and why it's so beneficial. 

Before Mikki was a licensed psilocybin facilitator, she spent years working in prisons, then community mental health, before deciding to start facilitating psilocybin sessions as a harm reduction provider — before it was legal, when it could have cost her everything.

In this conversation, we cover:

• Why she risked her career to do this work before Colorado legalized it
• Why traditional talk therapy often hits a ceiling that psychedelic-assisted therapy seems to break through
• The typical process of a psilocybin-assisted therapy session 
• The story of a young man with 17 years of daily seizures — and what happened during his psilocybin session with her
• What a "bad trip" actually is (spoiler: it's not what most people think) versus a "challenging experience"
• How Colorado built the first regulated psilocybin therapy framework — and what public support the model still needs to survive
• How to find a legitimate psilocybin facilitator and what questions to ask them
• Who this work is NOT for

If you listened to Part 1 and wondered how any of this is actually possible — this is the episode that answers that question.

Written companion pieces on Meghan's Substack: meghanfrenchdunbar.substack.com
Part 1 — To Shroom or Not to Shroom?
Part 2 — Why I'm a Mom Who Does Drugs

Connect with Mikki: https://www.neuroalchemycenter.com/

Connect with Meghan:
Substack: meghanfrenchdunbar.substack.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/meghanfrenchdunbar
Book: This Isn't Working — meghanfrenchdunbar.com/book