Words of the Year (with Natalie Haynes)

As the year comes to a close, Natalie Haynes joins Armando to discuss and dissect the words of 2025.

Looking at official lists, and conjuring up some of their own, they set about breaking down the language that defined another frenetic year. We find out what links all of the official words of the year, and why we can learn a lesson from Austria when choosing them. Armando also denies he writes Pete Hegseth's speeches, and Natalie denies she is in a parasocial relationship with Taylor Swift

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Produced by Gwyn Rhys Davies. A BBC Studios production for Radio 4.