Boris Johnson on Why Europe and America Still Need Each Other

As war in Ukraine grinds towards its fifth year and tensions strain the transatlantic alliance, former British prime minister Boris Johnson says he remains convinced that the West has the power to prevail: “Putin has got to lose.” Today, Johnson joins School of War to discuss how the West can bring the Russian president to the negotiating table, why Europe’s dream of “strategic autonomy” is a “sham, a snare and a delusion,” and why he believes predictions of American decline and Chinese dominance have it backward.

02:20 — When Boris Johnson Knew Putin Would Invade Ukraine

05:46 — Why Europe Didn’t Believe an Invasion Was Coming

09:12 — Did Boris Johnson Stop a Ukraine-Russia Peace Deal?

11:19 — Could Ukraine Trade Land for Peace?

13:43 — What Johnson Saw on Ukraine’s Front Lines

17:06 — How Economic Warfare Could Pressure Putin

18:00 — “Putin Has Got to Lose”

20:00 — The Growing Divide Between America and Europe

22:19 — Can Britain Still Defend Itself?

26:20 — JD Vance’s Critique of Europe

30:12 — Britain, Free Speech, and the Culture War

34:39 — Can Europe Achieve “Strategic Autonomy”?

39:07 — Why America Should Still Care About NATO

41:01 — The Fight Over the Chagos Islands and Diego Garcia

46:12 — Why Johnson Is Still Betting on America Over China

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