Matt got lost on his way to the costume department

We made a TV show! Kara and Matt take you behind the scenes of putting the series together, and how hard it is to find a iron when you need one.

The Black Swans series kicks off this Thursday 8th January on podcast, and hits television on Saturday 10th January.

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Check out our series on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDTPrMoGHssAfgMMS3L5LpLNFMNp1U_Nq.