Johnny Manziel & Josh Gordon on the NFL’s Drug Testing Policy and Flash’s Epic 2013 Season

Johnny Manziel and Josh Gordon finally sit down for the conversation fans have waited years to hear. On this episode of Glory Daze, the former Browns teammates look back at their time in Cleveland — the electric moments, the chaos behind the scenes, and the bond they built while navigating a franchise constantly in flux.

Josh talks about how his rise in Cleveland played a real role in the Browns drafting Johnny, and how their careers became linked from day one. They dive into their shared experiences as two of the most watched young players in the league, the day-to-day reality of the NFL drug-testing world, and how much pressure came with trying to live up to massive expectations on and off the field.

Josh opens up about joining the Patriots, catching passes from Tom Brady, and what it was like having Bill Belichick keeping close tabs on him everywhere he went. Johnny gets him to walk through the moments fans never saw — the meetings, the conversations, and the plays that still stick with him years later.

Johnny also shifts the conversation to today’s college football landscape, how NIL would’ve changed everything for him, and even tells stories about partying with Diego Pavia — now lighting it up at Vanderbilt — as the two compare eras and how the game keeps evolving.

Chapters:

0:00 - Intro

1:41 - Flash's Folk Hero Status

3:45 - Flash's Epic 2013 Season

6:23 - Flash Breaks Down His 261 YD 2 TD Game vs. Jags

8:40 - "I've Taken More Drug Tests Than Anyone Times 100"

9:00 - Johnny's Dwayne Bowe Failed Drug Test Story

11:38 - How Josh and Johnny Fooled NFL Drug Testing

14:16 - The NFL has changed their stance on weed

17:10 - Josh Gordon helped get Johnny drafted

24:16 - 3CHI ad

25:27 - Flash’s intro to New England and Tom Brady

27:19 - Meeting Bill Belichick

28:35 - Belichick had a security team follow Josh around

33:06 - When Josh took a year off from the NFL

36:15 - Flash’s admiration for Andy Reid

41:58 - Leaving the NFL lifted a weight off Josh and Johnny’s shoulders

43:45 - Johnny and Josh on what could have been

45:05 - Partying with Diego Pavia

47:27 - Johnny on the new NIL

51:07 - One word to define Josh’s Glory Daze

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