Err, huh? It’s a brand new Crowley Time investigative spin-off in which he, Tez Tucker, billionaire at law, seeks out optimised people who unrepentantly employ whatever means necessary to achieve businessmaxxing. Our first guests are Petey Wodehouse and Sam Smattering, also known as The Muddlemen, who have an unusual strategy for getting the most out of meetings. Thanks to writers Jack Bernhardt and Tobi WIlson for connecting us. Follow Jack at @jackbern and Tobi at @tobiwilsonline on Bluesky and listen to Jack’s new podcast sitcom You’ve Got Braille wherever you get podcasts. To hear the extended Vast Powerful version of this interview, sign up to support this show at patreon.com/crowleytime. Get in touch on social media at @atomcrowley or email crowleytimepodcast@gmail.com and book your tickets to Crowley Time Live at the Edinburgh Fringe 2026, guest starring Kieran Hodgson and Freya Parker, at live.crowleytime.com!