My OCD gave me existential dread! Finding meaning in difficult times, with poet & actor Lucas Jones

We’re all looking for meaning in life in our own way. Poet Lucas Jones reckons it doesn’t really matter whether we call it God, The Universe, spirituality, or science, we all want to believe in the wonder in our world.

In this chat, Fearne and Lucas bond over not being able to do small talk, instead wanting to deeply connect over their big feelings. They also both share their different experiences of having OCD.

Lucas feels therapy is a brilliant thing – he’s really benefitted from CBT – but wonders if the rise in therapy comes from a loss of real community. How can we truly listen to and connect with each other again?

You can buy Lucas’ book of poetry, I Still Believe In Miracles, now.

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