5. The drowned out voices of climate change

On a park bench in the Scottish sun, community organiser Zarina Ahmad talks about her fraught experiences in environmental spaces. Unpicking tricky terms like ‘hard to reach communities’ and ‘behaviour change’, she tells Talia Randall what’s missing from many climate change movements and describes how not everyone has an equal say.

Calling each other out might feel uncomfortable but it’s a necessary part of coming together to make conversations about climate change more inclusive.

Produced, Written and Presented by Talia Randall Researcher: Erica McKoy Contributors: Zarina Ahmad Production Mentor: Anna Buckley Tech Producer: Gayl Gordon Executive Producers: Khaliq Meer & Leanne Alie Commissioned for BBC Sounds Audio Lab by Khaliq Meer Artwork by: Mike Massaro