Thirty Love at the 2022 U.S. Open: Tumaini Carayol on Serena and Venus Williams

Returning guest Tumaini Carayol, the Guardian's tennis correspondent, joins the show right after Serena and Venus Williams lost their first-round doubles match, and ahead of Serena Williams's third-round match in singles, to marvel at how thoroughly Serena and her retirement have dominated the tournament — and how realistic a long stay in the draw suddenly looks for the 23-time major singles champ. We also talk about the prospects of British men's hopes Jack Draper, Cam Norrie, and Andy Murray.

Thirty Love is back for a mini-season around the 2022 U.S. Open. Have feedback, a suggestion for a Thirty Love guest, or anything else you want to say? Email Carl at bialik@pm.me

Music by Lee Rosevere: "Credit Roll" and "Glass Android."