If you’ve ever replayed a conversation in the shower—or staged an entire debate in your head on the way to the grocery store—you already know the brain can be a noisy place. Today, we’re learning how self-talk shapes what you feel, what you do next, and whether you get stuck in a loop. Writer Donna Jackson Nakazawa unpacks why rumination is so sticky—and how to interrupt it—in Mind Drama: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist. And in the second half of the show, psychologist Ethan Kross joins us to share the big ideas from Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It.
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