Content creators Lori and Max Siegel join Ben for an honest, deeply human conversation about late diagnosis, identity and what it means to build a life together as a neurodivergent couple.Both diagnosed with AuDHD in adulthood, they reflect on being missed for decades - from masking and misdiagnosis to the quiet grief of realising how different things could have been. They explore how gender, queerness and hormones shape their neurodivergent experience, and what happens when both partners are navigating sensory needs, communication and...
Content creators Lori and Max Siegel join Ben for an honest, deeply human conversation about late diagnosis, identity and what it means to build a life together as a neurodivergent couple.
Both diagnosed with AuDHD in adulthood, they reflect on being missed for decades - from masking and misdiagnosis to the quiet grief of realising how different things could have been.
They explore how gender, queerness and hormones shape their neurodivergent experience, and what happens when both partners are navigating sensory needs, communication and regulation in real time.
If you’re navigating late diagnosis, identity or relationships as a neurodivergent adult, this episode is for you.
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Host: Ben Branson
Production Manager: Phoebe De Leiburné
Video Editor: James Scriven
Social Media Manager: Charlie Young
Music: Jackson Greenberg
Head of Marketing: Kristen Fuller
00:00 Introduction
01:52 Late Autism Diagnosis & Where It All Begins
05:57 Early ND Experiences & Feeling Different
11:38 Self-Awareness & ADHD Masking
16:21 Life Before Diagnosis
23:59 Recognition & Getting Assessed For ADHD
27:45 Understanding Yourself After Autism Diagnosis
37:56 ND Communication Differences Explained
43:13 Discomfort, Boundaries & Misunderstandings
48:22 Trust, Relationships & Being Honest
52:09 Daily Life, Challenges & Coping
56:22 Gratitude & Positive Reflections
1:00:55 Identity, Background & Personal History
1:09:10 Shared ND Experiences & Validation
1:18:43 Overstimulation & Sensory Struggles
1:23:38 Secondary Impacts Of ND
1:28:59 Lori & Max's Green Dot of Light
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