Mickey Down and Konrad Kay (How To Make A HBO Show)

Behind HBO's Industry, are showrunners Mickey Down and Konrad Kay, two ex-bankers who walked out of London's finance world to create one of TV's most compelling modern dramas. Here are the 6 creative lessons I learned from them about redefining your identity and doing great work...

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Timestamps:

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:56 The Journey: From Banking to HBO

00:12:45 Rule 1: Write What You Know

00:17:31 Rule 2: Give People a Peek Into an Inaccessible World

00:23:21 Rule 3: Study Human Nature

00:32:17 Rule 4: Create Something Shocking

00:40:32 Rule 5: Steal Like An Artist

00:46:35 Rule 6: Don't Stop Making

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Art mentioned:

• Industry - TV show, HBO (Mickey Down and Konrad Kay)
• Mad Men - TV show, AMC (Matthew Weiner)
• The Wire - TV show, HBO (David Simon)
• The Sopranos - TV show, HBO (David Chase)
• Game of Thrones - TV show, HBO (David Benioff and D.B. Weiss)
• Mastery - book, Robert Greene
• Gregor - indie film, Mickey Down and Konrad Kay
• Edinburgh TV Festival - panel/interview
• Keep Going - book, Austin Kleon
• Hayao Miyazaki - Make Like The Greats episode 2
• Bruce Lee - Make Like The Greats episode 8
• The Godfather - film (1972), Francis Ford Coppola
• The Social Network - film (2010), David Fincher
• "Industry's Unintelligible Finance Jargon" GQ article by Jack King

• Television Academy - interview, Mickey Down and Konrad Kay
• The Prestige - film (2006), Christopher Nolan
• Indiewire - interview/podcast, Mickey Down and Konrad Kay
• Tasteland - podcast, hosted by Daisy Alioto

• The Laws of Human Nature - book, Robert Greene
• The Lord of the Rings - book, J.R.R. Tolkien
• Becoming The Main Character - podcast
• 50 Cent - Make Like The Greats episode 1
• The Creative Act - book, Rick Rubin
• Hamilton - musical, Lin-Manuel Miranda
• Washington Post - interview, Mickey Down and Konrad Kay
• Apocalypse Now - film (1979), Francis Ford Coppola (edited by Walter Murch)
• The English Patient - film (1996), Anthony Minghella (edited by Walter Murch)
• Novembermag - interview, Mickey Down and Konrad Kay
• Steal Like An Artist - book, Austin Kleon
• The Runaway Species - book, Anthony Brandt and David Eagleman
• Heat - film (1995), Michael Mann

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