Episode 60: School Culture Over Programs: Robert Hinchliffe on Principal Leadership That Actually Works

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What if the fastest way to better scores isn’t another program, but a stronger culture? We sit down with Las Vegas principal and author Robert Hinchliffe to unpack how trust, clear systems, and teacher autonomy transform schools into places kids and adults love. Robert’s journey from a high-school aide to AP to founding principal reveals what leadership really looks like behind the scenes: managing personalities, making uncomfortable decisions, and building structures that let great people do great work.

We dig into the daily realities leaders carry that most never see—budget puzzles, hallway dynamics, policy thresholds, and how “guardrails” like MTSS, PBIS, and attendance systems create freedom, not red tape. Robert explains why micromanagement fails, how to design for teacher strengths, and what happens when you put morale ahead of the latest initiative. Expect candid takes on cell phone expectations, the myth of one right instructional path, and the honest truth that principals must be okay with being disliked when they choose what’s best for the school.

Robert also shares the heart behind his books, More Than Just Teaching, More Than Just Support Staff, and More Than Just Principals; and the consistent lesson across small towns and big districts: relationships are the multiplier. When people feel seen and supported, they try more, risk more, and grow faster. If you’re an aspiring AP or principal, you’ll walk away with a practical blueprint: seek experiences, study leaders, manage personalities with care, and measure belonging alongside academics. Most of all, build a school you’d want your own kids to attend.

If this conversation sparks ideas, follow Robert’s work and grab More Than Just Principals. Then share the episode with a colleague who needs a lift, subscribe for future interviews, and leave a quick review to help more school leaders find the show.

Connect with Robert Hinchliffe:

Website: https://roberthinchliffe.com/

Tik Tok: @rhperspective

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