"We Had to Kill the Ipod To Save Apple" - iPod & iPhone Inventor, Tony Fadell
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”We Had to Kill the Ipod To Save Apple” - iPod & iPhone Inventor, Tony Fadell

2026-06-11
Today, we're joined by Tony Fadell, inventor of the iPod, co-inventor of the iPhone, and founder of Nest, acquired by Google. He's also the New York Times bestselling author of Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making, and has invested in over 100 companies working across AI, surgery, textiles, and drug discovery.Tommy Stadlen talks to Tony about why Apple was so close to collapse when it bet on the iPod, why no single AI device will replace the smartphone, and the two-year internal standoff with Steve...
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