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On this episode, we have Hannah Schaffer and Evan Rowland, the two creators behind indie game design outfit, turtlebun. They've published games like Questlandia, Noirlandia, Damn the man save the music, Mud: a golem memoir, and many more. You can find more about those games at turtlebun.com.
Evan and Hannah also co-host a podcast called Design Doc , which is in their own words, about "trying to make a living as people putting things out in the world". If you read any reviews of that show, you'll hear it being described with words like honest, vulnerable, caring, friendly. It's one of my favourite podcasts in the world and you should listen to it. Then, you can too get vulnerable insights into the daily practice of being a game designer and you can also learn that Carrie Fisher once overtweezed Hannah's mom eyebrows at a workshop.
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Show Notes:
02:46 Getting started (Evan reinvents microtransactions)
09:07 Going from making big things to making medium-small things
11:30 Getting deep with Design Doc
25:00 What is collaboration and how do you even do it?
36:25 Infections Enthusiasm: The Beast and Usagi Yojimbo
39:40 Tyranny of Numbers
43:46 RePlay
45:33 All Advice Is Advice For Myself
Some of my personal greatest hits from Design Doc :
Making a TTRPG Career (w/ Sebastian Yue)
Getting Weirder Than Lovecraft (w/ Graham Walmsley)
The Awards (w/ Nico MacDougall and Tan Shao Han)
Reading The F**king Manual (w/ Max Lander & Aaron King)
Meeting Games Where They're At [w/ Quinns]
Bonus: Open Hearth's Games of the Year 2023
Best of 2023: Games Recommended By Guests
What We Get From Studying Games (w/ Evan Torner)
Teaching Games: Girl by Moonlight
How To Run A Publishing Company: The Black Armada Story (w/ Josh Fox)
Bonus: Discussing Band of Blades on DiceExploder
Teaching Games: Apocalypse Keys
Reading 1000 RPG Books (w/ Layla Adelman)
Reviewing Games on Youtube (w/ Dave Thaumavore)
15 Years of Deeper In The Game (w/ Chris Chinn)
Actual Play, Actual Work (w/ Emily Friedman)
How To Summon Demons With Cards (w/ Becky Annison)
Reading Indie Games At The Club (w/ Paul Beakley)
All Superhero RPGs, All The Time [w/ Fiona Hopkins and Stephanie Burt]
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