Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it’s losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest’s article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church.” Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons—both positive and negative—from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling.
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News Segment
0:00 - Intro
2:21 - Christian’s travelogue and other updates
5:45 - Happy the Elephant
14:03 - More SCOTUS rulings
23:27 - Christian Right losing in public opinion
30:38 - Costs of overturning Roe
46:07 - Americans’ belief in God is dropping
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Interview with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley
“Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church” - https://amzn.to/3nHnA68
Nancy Beach - http://www.nancylbeach.com/
Samantha Beach Kiley - www.samanthabeach.work
56:04 - Relevance and trust
1:03:24 - Beyond content delivery
1:08:02 - Experiencing other traditions
1:10:59 - Blind spots and overcorrecting
1:18:00 - Church leadership culture
1:27:42 - Credits
Articles referenced in news segment:
“Happy the elephant is not a person, New York’s highest court rules” - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/happy-the-elephant-is-not-a-person-new-yorks-highest-court-rules
“The Christian Right is winning in court while losing in public opinion” (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109141110/the-christian-right-is-winning-cultural-battles-while-public-opinion-disagrees
“What has the demise of Roe v. Wade cost the Catholic Church?” by Thomas Reese (Religion News Service) - https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/what-has-demise-roe-v-wade-cost-catholic-church
“Poll: Americans’ belief in God is dropping” - https://religionnews.com/2022/06/21/poll-americans-belief-in-god-is-dropping/
Resource mentioned in interview:
“The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters” by Priya Parker - https://amzn.to/3akrxui
617: Apple Crushes It & the Future of Christianity with Matthew Niermann
616: Black Church Politics & Messy Authenticity with Nancy French
615: Taylor Swift’s Sacrilege & the Future of the Republican Party with Peter Wehner
French Friday: Israel’s Error and College Protests
614: The Rise of Raunchy Christians & Avoiding Civil War with Tracy McKenzie
613: Driscoll, Dawkins, & Political Discipleship with Curtis Chang
612: The Religious Vacuum, Politics, & the Powers with N.T. Wright
611: Trump’s Bible, Biden’s Easter, and Climate Change for Christians with Katharine Hayhoe
French Friday: TikTok Ban & Who Should Hold the Reins of Social Media
610: Learning to Disagree Respectfully with John Inazu
609: Rebounding Pastors, Shifting Evangelicals, & Rethinking Christian Media with Jon Houghton
608: Defining the Gospel & Who’s a “Real” Christian with Matthew Bates
607: The Gift of Disillusionment with Mike Cosper
606: Alabama Embryos & Catechizing Kids with Todd Hains & Natasha Kennedy
French Friday: Biden's Age & MAGA's Violence
605: Market-Driven Christianity & Abortion Beyond Politics with Angela Weszely
604: Faulty Foot Washing & Pagan Christianity with Nijay Gupta
603: The Politics of Fear & Rethinking the Cross with Brian Zahnd
602: When Vischer Met Reiner
French Friday: Why D.E.I. is the New C.R.T.
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