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Knowing how LLM contexts work and how to work around context limitations – aka “context engineering” – is becoming more important for software engineers working with LLMs. Let’s look into what works and what doesn’t, today.
In this episode of The Pragmatic Engineer podcast, I sit down with the CEO and cofounder of HumanLayer, Dex Horthy, who coined the term “context engineering”. We discuss the ideas behind this context engineering, harness engineering, loop engineering, software factories, why his approach to AI-assisted software development has evolved, and how HumanLayer is helping engineering teams automate more of the software development lifecycle without sacrificing code quality.
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:33 Dex’s path into tech
03:34 Early work in platform engineering
05:28 Replicated
11:24 Metalytics
12:36 12-factor agents
18:27 Context engineering
23:38 Harness engineering
26:11 Context overload
30:45 Loop engineering
44:34 Software factories before and after AI
50:33 Automation limits
55:18 Three options for automating
59:00 RPI framework
1:04:16 Intentional compaction
1:11:48 Token harder vs. token smarter
1:16:44 AI slop
1:19:15 HumanLayer
1:29:09 Book recommendation
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