At Old Trafford yesterday Manchester City proved once again they are levels above Manchester United.
How much is Erik ten Hag to blame and is he right to say United are still moving in the right direction after being outclassed by City?
Or with all the turmoil off pitch going on, at one of the worlds biggest clubs, does he simply have an impossible job?
Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic’s Adam Crafton and Dan Sheldon.
Produced by Guy Clarke
Executive Producer: Adey Moorhead
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