The Devil of Angels Landing: The Death of Bernadette Van Der Meer

Yet another trip gone wrong up a mountain! And did the life insurance situation recently change? Of course it did! But this one gets extra twisty, so buckle up. This week we're talking about David Van Der Meer, the not-so-accidental death of his wife on a hike in Zion, and the two decades of grooming, church-hopping, and abuse he got away with until someone used nasa data to prove his story just didn;t check out. 

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