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Mike and Jake host John Ferry to discuss the ins & outs and the highs & lows of trying to sell tech to the Pentagon, and the US government—how it really works.
Warning: We had a ton of fun—maybe a bit too much. This episode is full of spicy takes and unvarnished thoughts and opinions based on 15+ years of experience and scar tissue. Hang on for a ride deep down the rabbit hole of govcon and fedtech nerdiness, but we make it out ok at the end—discussing the next AI vs. AI front.
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Show Notes
(01:10) John Ferry
(08:30) coming out of the shell
(10:52) selected not funded (wtf!)
(11:22) confessions of a SBIR scorer
(14:06) GovCon Merit Badges
(17:57) SBIR “consultants”
(19:50) SBIR mills
(21:56) founder horror story
(26:05) John’s creative process
(29:48) PowerPoint Ranger
(32:43) change the industry vs change yourself
(34:17) the same, but also never easier
(43:38) play the game, roll the dice
(44:50) pump those numbers up! (cost plus)
(46:06) recent fixed-price pushback
(50:42) using AI to write government proposals
(54:57) AI vs AI proposal writing/scoring
(1:00:10) outro
E36 – Revolutionizing Ukraine's Defense Tech Industry
E35 – US Merchant Marine
E34 – Drones in Ukraine
E33 – Keeping up Foreign Relations
E32 – Lowdown 3.26.24
E31 – The plan to fix the US military's industrial base
E30 – Lowdown 2.20.24
E28 – Lowdown 2.8.24
E27 – Lowdown 1.30.24
E26 – Lowdown 1.23.24
E25 – Ground-Launched AIM-120s!
E24 – Lowdown 1.16.24
E23 – Lowdown 1.9.24
E22 – The legend that reshaped the 1990s military tech industry
E21 – Leading the Blue Angels & Thunderbirds (replay)
E20 – Canada’s Air Force Crisis
E19 – Seagliders: The Next Innovation in Mobility
E18 – NEWS: Israel, Congress, $1B defense tech bet, & more
E17 – HTX Labs
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