22.3 Angela Saini, science journalist and author

How do you connect with audiences on a deeper, truer level? Viv talks to award-winning journalist and author, Angela Saini, about combatting pseudo-science and reaching people by peeling back the layers of thinking. Her celebrated books include: Inferior: How Science Got Women Wrong, Superior: The Return of Race Science and her latest The Patriarchs: How Men Came to Rule.

Angela tells Viv how her grounding in news journalism in her 20s helped hone her skills to write succinctly, to deadline and to time in a way that helps her in every aspect of her work now – from writing to public speaking.

There's a meticulousness to Angela's approach that combines keen organisation with keeping an open, ready to adapt and think differently. It's a winning formula that Viv delves into and pulls out some nuggets to take away.

The Patriarchs: How Men Came to Rule by Angela Saini is out at the end of February 2024.

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