Rachel Zucker talks with Sheila Heti and Sarah Manguso about literary friendship, Sarah’s two recent books, Sheila’s manuscript in progress, maternal ambivalence, uncertainty, sacrifice of self, envy, curiosity, being a daughter, attachment and unattachment, shame, the sickening state of wondering whether or not to have children, abandonment, money, the things we cannot choose, choosing intolerable feelings, whiteness, class, the poetics of motherhood, purity, polluted writing, and motherhood as a sexuality category.
EXTRA MATERIALS FOR EPISODE 37Books by Sheila Heti
Motherhood (Henry Holt & Co., 2018)
All Our Happy Days Are Stupid (McSweeney’s Publishing, 2015)
Women in Clothes (Blue Rider Press, 2014), edited with Heidi Julavits and Leanna Shapton
The Middle Stories (McSweeney’s Publishing, 2012)
How Should a Person Be? (Henry Holt & Co., 2012)
We Need A Horse (Mcsweeney’s McMullens, 2011)
The Chairs Are Where the People Go (FSG, 2011)
Ticknor (FSG, 2006)
Prose
300 Arguments (Graywolf, 2017)
Ongoingness: The End of a Diary (Graywolf, 2015)
The Guardians: An Elegy (FSG, 2012)
The Two Kinds of Decay (FSG, 2008)
Hard to Admit and Harder to Escape (McSweeney's Books, 2007)
Poetry
Siste Viator (Four Way Books, 2006)
The Captain Lands in Paradise (Alice James Books, 2002)
Other Books, Writers & Artists Mentioned in the Episode
Molly Peacock
Amanda Stern
Yaddo
David Lehman
Cynthia Ozick
Carmen Giménez Smith
Eula Biss
Annie Dillard
Maggie Nelson
Heidi Julavits
Carrot Top by Jules Renard (FSG, 1975)
Paradise, Piece by Piece by Molly Peacock (Riverhead, 1998)
100 Essays I Don’t Have Time to Write by Sarah Ruhl (FSG, 2015)
Museum of Accidents by Rachel Zucker (Wave Books, 2009)
Other Relevant Links
Sheila Heti interviews Wayne Koestenbaum, Matthew Rohrer & Rachel Zucker for The Believer
Conversation between Rachel and Sarah about motherhood in Candor Magazine
Video of Rachel giving birth to her son Judah
Sarah Manguso’s essay, The Great Shattering, in Harper’s Magazine
from A Kentucky of Mothers by Dana Ward
Episode 121: Fred Moten and Ronaldo Wilson - Part 2
Episode 120: Fred Moten and Ronaldo V. Wilson
Episode 119: Eugenia Leigh's Bianca (KTCO feed drop)
Episode 118: Laurel Snyder
Episode 117: Charif Shanahan & Safia Elhillo with Isaac Ginsberg Miller
Episode 116: The Gathered Congregation
Episode 115: Moheb Soliman
Episode 114: Live & Embodied
113: Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah
Episode 112: Gabrielle Octavia Rucker with V Conaty
Episode 111: The Confessional Episode
Episode 110: The Poetics of Wrongness
Episode 109: Joy Harjo
Episode 108: Saeed Jones
Episode 107: Eileen Myles
Episode 106: S. Yarberry with V Conaty
Episode 105: Carl Phillips
Episode 104: The Critical Response Process with Liz Lerman & John Borstel
Episode 103: Cody-Rose Clevidence with Valentine Conaty
Episode 102: Rebekah Wolkstein
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