For decades, queer people have been told that acceptance comes with conditions - be more normal, more mainstream, more palatable. But a new generation of queer artists is rejecting these expectations entirely. This fourth and final summer special examines how queer voices are choosing authentic expression over respectability politics, even when it comes at real costs.Featuring conversations with Brendan Maclean from Australia, whose explicit "House of Air" video became his most radical artistic statement; Warren Dumas from Atlanta, who challenges...
For decades, queer people have been told that acceptance comes with conditions - be more normal, more mainstream, more palatable. But a new generation of queer artists is rejecting these expectations entirely. This fourth and final summer special examines how queer voices are choosing authentic expression over respectability politics, even when it comes at real costs.
Featuring conversations with Brendan Maclean from Australia, whose explicit "House of Air" video became his most radical artistic statement; Warren Dumas from Atlanta, who challenges gender expectations through androgynous presentation; SADBOY from New York, who highlights the contradiction between queer influence on culture and its lack of recognition; and Matt Fishel from the UK, who faced industry pressure to hide his gay identity but chose to create the representation he never had growing up.
These artists understand that visibility itself is activism, and that real change comes from refusing to apologise for who you are.
Timestamped Takeaways
01:48 - Brendan Maclean's radical response to respectability politics: "We created the most queer, joyful, unashamed music video I think that's ever existed"
06:26 - Warren Dumas on challenging expectations: "If it makes someone wonder, or if it makes someone stop... it opens up their mind to possibilities of being"
08:15 - SADBOY on queer influence without recognition: "We influence hip hop... The world does not spin without the black gaze"
11:41 - Matt Fishel on industry pressure: "Every single one of them basically said to me... you got to cut the gay content"
13:43 - Warren Dumas on gender double standards: "When you know there are female singers... can display these acts of homosexuality, and it's art. But once a male does it..."
15:16 - Brendan Maclean on career consequences: "It also really spoke to me away from pop music at the time... I went deeply inwards, as deep inwards as I possibly could go"
20:12 - Brendan on finding his way back: "I had to get back on at a drag night... and the next week I was in Italy performing for Bulgari in a castle"
21:01 - SADBOY's mission: "I'm trying to say that it's okay to display emotion... Any type of emotion like it's okay to love and to embrace that love"
23:32 - Matt Fishel on creating representation: "I made these songs for 15 year old me... This is the album I wanted to hear at 15 years old"
Links
- Read deep dives into our queer lives at the blog HERE.
- Check out the official podcast playlist on Spotify.
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- See producer and presenter Dan Hall's other work HERE (subtitled version HERE).
- Find composer Paul Leonidou HERE.
- Listen to other episodes at HERE.
Visit the guests' homepages:
- Brendan Maclean HERE
- Paul Andrews HERE
- JSky HERE
- SADBOY HERE
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