#121: Kate and Jordan’s Story - Part 3

2026-05-08

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At last, here is the final installment of our interview with Jordan and Kate Jones (aka Part 3). This is also the end of Season #8. Thank you for being with us! Jordan shares something very profound at the top of the episode and we roll from there. We talk character change, perspective shift in what Jordan cared most about, and Jordan's wholesale surrender. We also talk about Kate's six months of detachment and her perspective on trust and ultimately that she knows deep down, no matter what, she will be okay. I loved the framew...

At last, here is the final installment of our interview with Jordan and Kate Jones (aka Part 3). This is also the end of Season #8. Thank you for being with us!

Jordan shares something very profound at the top of the episode and we roll from there. We talk character change, perspective shift in what Jordan cared most about, and Jordan's wholesale surrender. We also talk about Kate's six months of detachment and her perspective on trust and ultimately that she knows deep down, no matter what, she will be okay.

I loved the framework that Kate developed for herself - here are some of the truths she shared:

#1 - No matter what, I will be okay.

#2 - If something is going on, I know I will find out,

#3 - I can't be with you all the time, but I do see your character.

#4 - I don't need him to be okay for me to be okay.

Toward the end of the podcast, Kate shares that the security she has in God and the work it took to get there is worth the struggles she has gone through. What sweet redemption.

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