Julia Curlee and Errin Haines: Cowards Are Running This Country

When Trump came back into power, his administration leaned heavily on former CIA analyst Julia Curlee to help safeguard our national security. The first CIA officer to transition openly, Curlee had worked at the highest levels in the White House for years. But once her gender identity became public through a witch hunt, she was hounded out. Curlee talks with Tim about the chaos of Trump’s slash-and-burn firings, the administration’s demonizing of trans people, and how Mike Pence treated her with dignity and respect when she was his personal briefer. Plus: The 19th’s Errin Haines joins to discuss the Florida primaries, the Dems’ prospects in the South, the real backlash against the Callais decision, and AOC’s Woke 1 comments. And Tim asks The Bulwark community to help Venezuelan detainees Freddys Revilla and Edgarianny Gervis.

Julia Curlee and Errin Haines join Tim Miller.

show notes:

• Katie Britt’s office: 202-224-5744
• Britt’s chief of staff: Sean_Ross@britt.senate.gov and her subcommittee clerk  Dave Roth at at 202-224-4319
• Britt’s Twitter: @SenKatieBritt
• Where Tim shared the letter and drawing that were sent to Britt
• Curlee's Atlantic piece, "The Wrong Kind of American"
• Mona's podcast, where Curlee will also be a guest later this week
• Errin's newsletter, "The Amendment"
• Tim's 'Take' on the detained Venezuelan family

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