4.57 Levi Secord, David Schrock, & Stephen Wellum • Interview • ”Law is King: How the Bible Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government”

ABOUT THE EPISODE

Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview Levi Secord on his COA Longform Essay: "Law is King: How the BIble Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government"

Timestamps

• 00:30 – Intro
• 03:38 – The Background Behind Servant Not Savior
• 05:11 – What are Some Things that Need to be On Our Radar as We Discuss This Subject?
• 08:15 – Walking Us Through the History from the King to the Law
• 10:27 – The Place of Natural Law
• 13:15 – Where in the Bible Do We Encounter Rutherford’s Ideas?
• 15:49 – Nations Making Covenants
• 21:00 – What is the Responsibility of Christians to Remind the Government of Their Role Before God?
• 22:57 – Who’s Role is it to Preach Before the Government?
• 29:00 – Political Theology is not Just from the Old Testament
• 31:32 – How Should We Read the OT Law to the King and Apply It Today?
• 36:50 – How Does Progressive Covenantalism Apply the Law?
• 40:22 – The Principle of General Equity
• 42:03 – What Can Nations Learn from Israel? From the Church?
• 47:20 – Good Government is the Exception to the Rule
• 51:25 – The Case for Bringing the Bible to the Public Square
• 54:50 – Natural Law is Not Devoid of Special Revelation
• 56:10 – Levi Secord’s Final Encouragements
• 57:40 – Outro

Resources to Click

• “Law is King: How the Bible Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government” – Levi Secord
• 136: Political Islam – Just Thinking Podcast
• 2026 National Founders Conference: Make Disciples
• Theme of the Month: Christmas Buffet
• Give to Support the Work

Books to Read

• Servant Not Savior: An Introduction to the Bible’s Teaching about Civil Government – Levi Secord
• Defending the Declaration: How the Bible and Christianity Influenced the Writing of the Declaration of Independence – Gary Amos
• A Christian Manifesto – Francis Schaeffer
• How Should We Then Live? – Francis Schaeffer
• He Is There and He Is Not Silent – Francis Schaeffer
• Lex Rex: The Law is King – Samuel Rutherford
• The Origins of American Constitutionalism – Donald Lutz
• Colossians and Philemon (ZECotNT) – David W. Pao
• The Gospel of Matthew (NICNT) – R.T. France
• The Mission of God: A Manifesto of Hope for Society – Joseph Boot
• The Emergence of Liberty in the Modern World – Douglas F. Kelly
• Dominion – Tom Holland
• The Book that Made Your World: How the Bible Created the Soul of Western Civilization – Vishal Mangalwadi
• Mere Christendom – Douglas Wilson