Roko Babich has had the big lights of city living with the demanding job and never-ending deadline to the still oceans and peaceful background noise of nature in the far north of New Zealand. These two 'zones' of living are a great way to frame up this podcast chat with a deeper question to ponder: can we learn the skills and tools to thrive in both 'zones' in the modern world? One 'zone' seems to burn us out while the other 'zone' seems to leave us wanting more - so what is the balance in life we seek? Roko is on his own journey to find out.
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