Fresh Take: Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek and Dr. Roberta Golinkoff

Amy talks with developmental psychologists Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek and Dr. Roberta Golinkoff, authors of the newly revised parenting classic EINSTEIN NEVER USED FLASHCARDS, about why today’s parents feel more pressured than ever to optimize every moment of childhood—and why research shows that approach often backfires.

From academic preschools to AI toys, screen time to early reading, Kathy and Roberta explain what actually supports healthy learning and development.

You’ll learn:

• Why play-based learning leads to better academic and emotional outcomes

• The five key conditions for how the human brain learns best

• Why “faster” and “earlier” aren’t better for child development

• How everyday moments (like the grocery store or setting the table) are powerful learning opportunities

• The effects of AI toys and excessive screen use

• How simple games build executive function and social skills

• A practical mantra for overwhelmed parents: reflect, resist, recenter

This episode offers science-backed reassurance that children don’t need flashcards, apps, or enrichment overload—what they need most is playful, joyful, human connection.

Here's where you can find Drs. Hirsh-Pasek and Golinkoff:

• @drkathyanddrro on IG
• Buy EINSTEIN NEVER USED FLASHCARDS: https://bookshop.org/a/12099/9780593980767

What Fresh Hell is co-hosted by Amy Wilson and Margaret Ables.

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