Shamed or Shameless? (with Jennifer Welch)

Jennifer Welch, host of the podcast “I’ve Had It” joins Sam to talk about taking a midlife gap year in Manhattan and how the country is led by people with no shame, and you just can’t shame the shameless. They talk about how she navigates the daily shitstorm (by starting her day at 5am with four shots of espresso), staying on Twitter despite the Elon Musk factor, how growing up atheist in Oklahoma taught her how to dissociate from craziness around her, fellow Oklahoman Markwayne Mullin at DHS, and how to reckon with leaders who don’t value human life. But, Jennifer also somehow gives Sam a little optimism talking about the problems with strongmen leaders, and why Democrats need to stop chasing the elusive “reasonable Republican” voter. Plus, they unpack some potential 2028 candidates and rage over why democratic leaders can’t speak extemporaneously.

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