Trauma, Anxiety & the “Both/And” Life: How Catholic Women Heal Without Chasing Perfection (with Catherine DiNuzzo)

Holiness isn’t a highlight reel, and healing isn’t “just pray harder.” Licensed professional counselor and Catholic author/speaker Catherine DiNuzzo joins Marie to bring clarity to what trauma actually is (and isn’t), why so many women minimize their wounds, and how to move through pain without getting stuck in it. 

They talk about the pressure to “push through,” the lie of “I’m not enough,” how to stop bullying yourself internally, and why the saints’ lives were messier than the kids’ books make them look. Plus: what to do when the “trauma” is connected to your own past sins or mistakes, and how confession really does wipe the slate clean.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why trauma isn’t about “how bad it was,” but about how it impacted you

• The trap of comparison: “It’s not as bad as hers, so I shouldn’t feel this”

• How 2020–2022 exposed the limits of “just push through” culture

• Holiness vs. perfection: why we strive now, and become “fully holy” in Heaven

• The “both/and” life: you can be grateful and still be wounded

• The quiet burden so many women carry: “I’m not enough”

• A practical reframe: stop talking to yourself in a way you’d never talk to a friend

• How wounds can become pathways to grace: surrender as a white flag, not a victory speech

• Saints and suffering: what we miss when we only hear the “problem → Jesus → happy ending” version

• When the trauma is tied to your own choices: forgiving yourself for what you didn’t know then

• Mary Magdalene as a witness of mercy: your past doesn’t disqualify you from the cross

• How to stop living with your “mouth barely above water” and learn to swim through life’s waves

Connect with Guest

• Catherine DiNuzzo — Catholic speaker, author, and licensed professional counselor

• The Catholic Guide Through Anxiety + companion workbook

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