131.5 - Fear of Bad PR Risks Officer Safety: Travis Yates, Part 2

2026-01-12

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Text a Message to the ShowIn the first part of our conversation with Travis Yates, we talked about cowardly leadership. If you didn't listen to that episode, go back and listen to it right now, it's episode 131. This is the second part of that conversation where we veered off from the cowardly leadership conversation to the more specific conversation of how leadership affects officer safety. And this is something that Travis is really passionate about -- I mean he really gets fired up here. This is really isn't a space for political cor...

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In the first part of our conversation with Travis Yates, we talked about cowardly leadership. If you didn't listen to that episode, go back and listen to it right now, it's episode 131. This is the second part of that conversation where we veered off from the cowardly leadership conversation to the more specific conversation of how leadership affects officer safety. And this is something that Travis is really passionate about -- I mean he really gets fired up here. This is really isn't a space for political correctness; we're just kinda telling it like it is. I have these conversations all the time, just not usually with a cop who has a doctorate in this stuff.

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Travis' website: travisyates.org

Music is by National Sweetheart, by LesFM, and by Chris Haugen

Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 131.5

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Police, Career, Cowardice, Courage, Leadership; Police Culture, Safety, Tulsa, Oklahoma

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