Di Dang is an emerging tech design advocate at Google and helped lead the creation of Google’s People + AI Guidebook. In her role, she works with product design teams, external partners, and end users to support the creation of emerging tech experiences. She also teaches a course on immersive technology at the School of Visual Concepts. Prior to these positions, Di worked as an emerging tech lead and senior UX designer at POP, a UX consultant at Kintsugi Creative Solutions, and a business development manager at AppLift. She earned a bachelor of arts degree in philosophy and religious studies from Stanford University.
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Quotes from Today’s Episode“Even within Google, I can’t tell you how many times I have tech leaders, engineers who kind of cock an eyebrow at me and ask, ‘Why would design be involved when it comes to working with machine learning?’” — Di
“Software applications of machine learning is a relatively nascent space and we have a lot to learn from in terms of designing for it. The People + AI Guidebook is a starting point and we want to understand what works, what doesn’t, and what’s missing so that we can continue to build best practices around AI product decisions together.” — Di
“The key value proposition that design brings is we want to work with you to help make sure that when we’re utilizing machine learning, that we’re utilizing it to solve a problem for a user in a way that couldn’t be done through other technologies or through heuristics or rules-based programming—that we’re really using machine learning where it’s most needed.” — Di
“A key piece that I hear again and again from internal Google product teams and external product teams that I work with is that it’s very, very easy for a lot of teams to default to a tech-first kind of mentality. It’s like, ‘Oh, well you know, machine learning, should we ML this?’ That’s a very common problem that we hear. So then, machine learning becomes this hammer for which everything is a nail—but if only a hammer were as easy to construct as a piece of wood and a little metal anvil kind of bit.” — Di
“A lot of folks are still evolving their own mental model around what machine learning is and what it’s good for. But closely in relation—because this is something that I think people don’t talk as much about maybe because it’s less sexy to talk about than machine learning—is that there are often times a lot of organizational or political or cultural uncertainties or confusion around even integrating machine learning.” — Di
“I think there’s a valid promise that there’s a real opportunity with AI. It’s going to change businesses in a significant way and there’s something to that. At the same time, it’s like go purchase some data scientists, throw them in your team, and have them start whacking stuff. And they’re kind of waiting for someone to hand them a good problem to work on and the business doesn’t know and they’re just saying, ‘What is our machine learning strategy?’ And so someone in theory hopefully is hunting for a good problem to solve.” — Brian
“Everyone’s trying to move fast all the time and ship code and a lot of times we focus on the shipping of code and the putting of models into production as our measurement—as opposed to the outcomes that come from putting something into production.” — Brian
“The difference between the good and the great designer is the ability to merge the business objectives with ethically sound user-facing and user-centered principles.” — Brian
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142 - Live Webinar Recording: My UI/UX Design Audit of a New Podcast Analytics Service w/ Chris Hill (CEO, Humblepod)
141 - How They’re Adopting a Producty Approach to Data Products at RBC with Duncan Milne
140 - Why Data Visualization Alone Doesn’t Fix UI/UX Design Problems in Analytical Data Products with T from Data Rocks NZ
139 - Monetizing SAAS Analytics and The Challenges of Designing a Successful Embedded BI Product (Promoted Episode)
138 - VC Spotlight: The Impact of AI on SAAS and Data/Developer Products in 2024 w/ Ellen Chisa of BoldStart Ventures
137 - Immature Data, Immature Clients: When Are Data Products the Right Approach? feat. Data Product Architect, Karen Meppen
136 - Navigating the Politics of UX Research and Data Product Design with Caroline Zimmerman
135 - “No Time for That:” Enabling Effective Data Product UX Research in Product-Immature Organizations
134 - What Sanjeev Mohan Learned Co-Authoring “Data Products for Dummies”
133 - New Experiencing Data Interviews Coming in January 2024
132 - Leveraging Behavioral Science to Increase Data Product Adoption with Klara Lindner
131 - 15 Ways to Increase User Adoption of Data Products (Without Handcuffs, Threats and Mandates) with Brian T. O’Neill
130 - Nick Zervoudis on Data Product Management, UX Design Training and Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
129 - Why We Stopped, Deleted 18 Months of ML Work, and Shifted to a Data Product Mindset at Coolblue
128 - Data Products for Dummies and The Importance of Data Product Management with Vishal Singh of Starburst
127 - On the Road to Adopting a “Producty” Approach to Data Products at the UK’s Care Quality Commission with Jonathan Cairns-Terry
126 - Designing a Product for Making Better Data Products with Anthony Deighton
125 - Human-Centered XAI: Moving from Algorithms to Explainable ML UX with Microsoft Researcher Vera Liao
124 - The PiCAA Framework: My Method to Generate ML/AI Use Cases from a UX Perspective
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