Jeff was joined by former Secretary of the Department of Interior David Bernhardt. They discuss his background working for the Department of Interior in the Bush and Trump administrations, the challenges of federal lands in western states, how former President Donald Trump asked him to lead the Department of Interior, how the government shutdown of in 2019 impacted his job, the time he was made designated survivor during the State of the Union, and how civil servants sometimes undermine the agenda of the president.
Jennie Armstrong - Episode 332
Michael Parker - Episode 331
John-Henry Heckendorn - Episode 330
Andrew Gray - Episode 329
Joe Geldhof - Episode 328
Neil Steininger - Episode 327
Keith McGee - Episode 326
Jerome List - Episode 325
Mark Begich - Episode 324
Jacob Hersh - Episode 323
Anna Brawley and Eric Visser - Episode 322
Bethany Marcum and Sarah Hetemi - Episode 321
Riley Gaines - Episode 320
Will Stapp - Episode 319
Miles Baker - Episode 318
Adolf Zeman - Episode 317
Jenna Wright - Episode 316
Nancy Dahlstrom - Episode 315
Andrew Halcro - Episode 314
Scott Habberstad - Episode 313
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