Getting Smart Podcast

Getting Smart Podcast

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This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.

Episode List

How Is Bhutan Transforming Education with Place-Based Learning? | Wangchuk and Tashi Dendup

Jan 9th, 2026 8:00 AM

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen engages with Wangchuck Wangchuck and Tashi Dendup to explore Bhutan's innovative approach to learner-centered practices. Learn how Bhutan connects education with its community, culture, and environment to foster critical thinking, collaboration, and sustainability. Through a whole-school approach, Bhutan is not only enhancing student engagement but also aligning its education system with its Gross National Happiness philosophy. This conversation highlights impactful lessons on transforming education systems to prepare learners for the complexities of the 21st century. Outline (00:00) Introduction to Place-Based Education (03:42) Welcome to Bhutan (06:34) Understanding Bhutan's Context (11:37) Evolution of Education in Bhutan (17:45) Place-Based Education in Practice (21:37) Student and Teacher Impact (29:12) Lessons Learned and Key Takeaways Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here Center for School Curriculum and Development Ministry of Education and Skills Development Teton Science Schools  

How Can Technologies Help Learners Figure Out What's Next For Them? | Diane Tavenner and Marshawn Brown

Jan 7th, 2026 8:00 AM

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Diane Tavenner, founder and CEO of Futre, and Marshawn Brown, a student user of the platform. Together, they discuss how Futre empowers students to explore diverse career pathways with transparency and dignity. From personalized career exploration and work-based learning integration to long-term tools for student success, this conversation reimagines the mission of education. Learn how schools can support students in navigating post-secondary options and preparing for meaningful, purpose-driven futures. Outline (00:00) Introduction to Futre Platform (09:02) Career Discovery and Exploration (13:33) Work-Based Learning Integration (22:35) Student Experience and Recommendations Links Read the full blog here Watch the full video here LinkedIn Futre Kairos Academies  

How Will AI Transform Education in 2026 and Beyond? | Ben Kornell

Dec 19th, 2025 8:00 AM

In this dual-episode podcast, Tom Vander Ark of Getting Smart and Ben Kornell of EdTech Insiders dive into the transformative year of 2025 in education and share bold predictions for 2026. They explore how AI-driven innovations, work-based learning, and personalized education models are reshaping teaching and learning. From the rise of AI-forward schools to the impact of generative AI on traditional classroom practices, Tom and Ben discuss key trends such as the shift to learner agency, creativity, and critical thinking. They also tackle pressing challenges, including the increasing automation of the workforce, the potential backlash against AI in K-12 education, and the growing importance of teacher training for AI integration. This episode is packed with insights, predictions, and actionable advice for educators, policymakers, and edtech leaders navigating the future of learning. Outline (00:00) The Rise of AI Automation and Its Impact on Education (10:21) Work-Based Learning and Career Education (15:23) AI-Forward Schools and New Learning Models (24:59) Teacher Training and Professional Development (29:09) Closing Thoughts and Looking Ahead Links Read the full blog here LinkedIn ASU + GSV Summit  

Can Team-Based Teaching Revolutionize Education? | Rebecca Hutchinson & Brent Maddin

Dec 17th, 2025 8:00 AM

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Nate McClennen is joined by Dr. Brent Maddin of the Next Education Workforce Initiative at ASU Mary Lou Fulton Teachers College and Dr. Rebecca Hutchinson, superintendent at Concord Community Schools in Michigan. Together, they explore the transformative potential of team-based teaching models that reimagine the traditional "one teacher, one classroom" approach. From improving teacher retention and fostering collaboration to enhancing student outcomes and creating personalized learning opportunities, this conversation dives into how innovative staffing models can reshape the future of education. Listen in to hear firsthand experiences from Concord's groundbreaking implementations and learn why now is the time to embrace team-based education. Outline (00:00) Introduction and Context (07:18) The Next Education Workforce Initiative (14:33) Team-Based Staffing at Concord (22:07) Impact and Student Outcomes (36:50) Why This Time Is Different Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here Rebecca Hutchinson LinkedIn Brent Maddin LinkedIn Next Education Workforce Concord Community Schools Unlocking the Potential of Team-Based Staffing  

What Happens When We Embrace Real World Learning? | Kenny Rodriguez

Dec 12th, 2025 8:00 AM

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Dr. Kenny Rodriguez, Superintendent of Grandview School District in Kansas City, shares how his district has embraced real-world learning and innovative pathways to drive student success. From his early work with Big Picture Learning in Tulsa to leading regional collaborations with neighboring districts, Dr. Rodriguez discusses the importance of breaking down barriers to provide shared opportunities for students. He highlights how Grandview integrates student passions into education through personalized learning pathways, partnerships, and hands-on experiences like Project Lead the Way. Tune in to hear how his leadership philosophy—focused on collaboration, creativity, and putting students first—has transformed education in his district and beyond. Outline (00:00) Discovering Big Picture Learning in Tulsa (09:38) Building Pathways in Kansas City (14:18) Regional Collaboration Begins (19:52) Creating Shared Pathway Portfolios (23:59) Leadership Through Learning (28:00) Advice for Aspiring Superintendents Links Read the full blog here Watch the full video here Grandview School District X | Kenny Rodrigues  

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