The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

467: BONUS Coffee with Mom—They Couldn't Get Enough of My Groin

After a six-month hiatus from TWIHI and on the occasion of her 88th birthday, multiple New York Times bestselling author Peggy Rowe (a.k.a. Mike's mom, a.k.a. America's grandmother) drops by to tell us where she's been, what she's working on next, and the groin-intruding procedure that took away her double vision. Who says "you can't get there from here!?" Many thanks to our excellent sponsors ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to post a job for FREE. MDriveForMen.com Try Boost and Burn to aid energy, metabolism and fat burning MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today! American-Giant.com/MIKE Use code MIKE to get 20% off your order.

466: Winn Claybaugh—Hairdressers Rule the World

Mike sits down with the dean and co-founder of Paul Mitchell Schools to talk about how an industry built on scissors, sinks, and human connection quietly shapes culture, opportunity, and second chances. Known by just about everyone who's met him as relentlessly—and genuinely—nice, Winn shares his improbable journey from former meth addict to one of the most influential educators in beauty, his deep commitment to philanthropy, and the philosophy behind his book Be Nice (or Else!). It's a conversation about redemption, dignity in work, and the unexpected people who end up running the world—one haircut at a time. Today's episode is sponsored by PureTalk.com/Rowe Save 50% off your first month! NetSuite.com/Mike Download their FREE business guide, Demystifying AI MDriveForMen.com Try Boost and Burn to aid energy, metabolism and fat burning MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today!

465: James Woods—Act Two

Acclaimed actor James Woods joins TWIHI for a candid conversation that goes far beyond his iconic film roles. Woods addresses his cancellation from Hollywood and how it inspired his life's second act, making music. He also recounts a shocking, nearly fatal accident involving a walk through a glass door, and he doesn't pull any punches when it comes to letting us know what he thinks about how Gavin Newsom has handled the aftermath of the Palisades Fire.  Big thanks to our terrific sponsors K12.com/Rowe Find a tuition-free K12-powered school near you. GoodRanchers.com Code MIKE gets $25 off, FREE shipping, and FREE ground beef, chicken, or salmon for a year. MDriveForMen.com Try Boost and Burn to aid energy, metabolism and fat burning MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today!

464: Palmer Luckey—The Department of War Has a Mullet

Tech founder, defense disruptor, and founder of Anduril Industries Palmer Luckey chats with Mike about the strange haircut on America's military bureaucracy—all business in the front, chaos in the back. Luckey explains how Anduril is trying to bring speed, accountability, and modern technology to national defense, often in spite of layers of red tape. Along the way, they discuss why Palmer got into defense contracting, who was pivotal in the Department of Defense becoming the Department of War, and why he donated to AOC. Shout out to our great sponsors PureTalk.com/Rowe Get talk, text and data for JUST $20 a month! ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to post a job for FREE. Lineman.edu to find your pathway to the trades K12.com/Rowe Find a tuition-free K12-powered school near you.

463: Cyril Derreumaux—In the Flow

Mike sits down with adventurer, endurance athlete, and motivational speaker Cyril Derreumaux, a man who has spent an unusual amount of time alone with his thoughts—and the open ocean. Cyril talks Mike through his two 70-plus-day solo treks across both the Atlantic and the Pacific in a kayak. Mike and Cyril explore risk, resilience, and the fine line between careful preparation and total uncertainty. It's a conversation about discipline, humility, and why sometimes the hardest part of moving forward is learning when not to fight the current. Big thanks to our awesome sponsors AuraFrames.com/Mike Use code MIKE to get $55 off their limited-edition Stone Collection frame. American-Giant.com/MIKE Use code MIKE to get 20% off your order. ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to try ZipIntro for FREE. PureTalk.com/Rowe Save 50% off your first month!