Inclusive Education Project (IEP) Podcast

Inclusive Education Project (IEP) Podcast

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Disability rights is the next frontier in civil rights. We believe education is the key to building an inclusive society and ensuring that all students are given an equal opportunity. The Inclusive Education Project Podcast, hosted by Special Education and Civil Rights attorneys, Amanda Selogie and Vickie Brett, offers a fresh, smart perspective on what it takes to truly make our educational systems and communities inclusive. Tune in each week as Amanda and Vickie share insight on topics...
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362: Better Behavior Solutions: Brain Breaks, Connection, and Rhythm

Feb 3rd, 2026 8:00 AM

In our final episode of 2025, we spoke with Dr. Doug Bolton about innovative solutions for students experiencing dysregulation. We received a lot of feedback on that episode and had already planned a follow-up episode about the shift in perspective we are seeing in student behavior. We are thrilled to welcome him back to learn from him about student behavior and regulation. Join us for another conversation with Dr. Bolton!Dr. Doug Bolton is a clinical psychologist who has always been drawn to working with kids who experience behavioral problems. Knowing that being in schools gives him the best vantage point from which to help kids, Doug became a school psychologist and later a principal at a therapeutic school. He is currently a consultant working with families to help vulnerable kids become more resilient. From his unique perspective and extensive experience, he wrote the book Untethered.Show Highlights:Recognizing rhythms to the school year, especially as a new semester beginsThe correlation between mental health issues and the school year (for students AND teachers)Our system is stressing everyone out because of the over-focus on test scores.A focus on test scores makes us lose the connective tissue of learning and community.Our best learning requires emotional regulation and connection in relationships.What we know about deep learning and where it happensThe value of a teacher who is willing to put ego aside and TRY to implement the IEP accommodations for a studentBrain breaks are essential for emotional regulation.Music, art, recess, and vocational planning are brain breaks that help decrease stress hormones.Proactive breaks vs. reactive breaks (Not all breaks are equal!)Being curious about misbehavior (“Misbehavior is stress behavior.”)Disruptive students are dysregulated students.Key takeaways from Dr. Bolton about the power of belonging, connected relationships, and emotional regulationConnect with us on social media with your questions for Dr. Bolton for a future episode!Resources:Connect with Dr. Doug Bolton: Website and UntetheredContact us on social media or through our website for more information on the IEP Learning Center: www.inclusiveeducationproject.org.Thank you for listening!Don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE to the show to receive every new episode delivered straight to your podcast player every Tuesday.If you enjoyed this episode and believe in our message, please help us get the word out about this podcast. Rate and Review this show on Apple Podcasts, Pandora, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your rating and review help other listeners find this show.Be sure to connect with us and reach out with any questions or concerns via Facebook, Instagram, X, the IEP Website, or Email.

Shifts are Happening: Pay Attention!

Jan 20th, 2026 8:00 AM

2026 has already had an interesting start, with numerous changes to education, particularly here in California. We urge you to check with your state representatives to see what’s happening in your state amid the chaos and confusion of the current state of US education. Your voice needs to be heard! We want this solo episode to focus on the trends we are seeing right now and how parents can be proactive. One of the biggest problems is the lack of services for the kids who need them most; so many are struggling to learn and function, but they are deemed ineligible for IEPs. Join us to learn more!Show Highlights:Understanding the federal law and its interpretation of IEP eligibilityDecisions are made in various ways and based on various criteria from state to stateAccommodations and supports are wonderful, but how would that child do without those in place?Being the squeaky wheel has its advantages.What the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) providesDigging deeper into social skills and problem-solving skills can help identify special needs.Parents can ask for additional assessments and evaluations from their school district.Special education analysis needs to be done from a holistic perspective that considers each child as a whole person.Resources:Contact us on social media or through our website for more information on the IEP Learning Center: www.inclusiveeducationproject.org.Thank you for listening!Don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE to the show to receive every new episode delivered straight to your podcast player every Tuesday. If you enjoyed this episode and believe in our message, please help us get the word out about this podcast. Rate and Review this show on Apple Podcasts, Pandora, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your rating and review help other listeners find this show. Be sure to connect with us and reach out with any questions or concerns: Facebook, Instagram, X, IEP Website, and Email.

Trauma-Informed IEPs: When Behavior Signals More with Dr. Desirie Sykes

Jan 6th, 2026 8:00 AM

​​Happy New Year! We can’t believe it’s already 2026. We made it through the holidays, which can be a particularly challenging time for many students. Our last episode of 2025 covered the topics of misbehavior and dysregulation, and we continue in that direction with today’s guest. Join us to learn more!Dr. Desirie Sykes is a speaker, leader, advocate, author, and CEO. She is the founder of NESS Behavior Consulting and NESS Cares, a nonprofit in New York. NESS Behavior Consulting provides resources for mental health and special education, targeting children with a primary diagnosis of autism. Dr. Sykes collaborates with local school districts in the Long Island, NY, area, providing support and services tailored to meet a student’s IEP. Her passion is to enlighten, uplift, and empower, while changing the narrative around mental health and providing accessible resources to those who need them. Show Highlights:Being sensitive and intuitive when behavior signals a deeper mental health issueBridging the gap between home and school behavior: A look at the big pictureParents should speak up in IEP meetings and ask questions confidently.Identifying your “starting point” in getting real about behavioral responsesThe challenge: Turning functional behavioral plans into doable bitsImportance of concrete, objective data about student behavior“How does the child feel about their environment?”Look at the big picture, not just the IEP meeting.Implementation of the needed supports is the key!One thing Dr. Sykes wants educators and parents to knowServices available through NESS Behavior ConsultingResources:Connect with Dr. Desirie SykesNESS Behavior ConsultingNESS CaresDesirieSykes.comContact us on social media or through our website for more information on the IEP Learning Center: www.inclusiveeducationproject.org.Thank you for listening!Don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE to the show to receive every new episode delivered straight to your podcast player every Tuesday. If you enjoyed this episode and believe in our message, please help us get the word out about this podcast. Rate and Review this show on Apple Podcasts, Pandora, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your rating and review help other listeners find this show. Be sure to connect with us and reach out with any questions or concerns: Facebook, Instagram, X, IEP Website, and Email.

A New Look at Misbehavior: Creating Upstream Solutions for Dysregulated Students with Dr. Doug Bolton

Nov 25th, 2025 8:00 AM

This episode will be the final one of 2025, as we take a break from the podcast over the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays. Before we introduce today’s topic and guest, we want to address the “elephant in the room”: the shifts happening in the Department of Education under the Trump administration. Just a heads-up: following us on Instagram is the best way to stay up to date on current happenings in our world. Please keep in touch! Today’s topic is behavior and discipline with our guest, Dr. Doug Bolton. Join us!Dr. Doug Bolton is a clinical psychologist who has always been drawn to working with kids who experience behavioral problems. Knowing that being in schools gives him the best vantage point from which to help kids, Doug became a school psychologist and later a principal at a therapeutic school. He is currently a consultant working with families to help vulnerable kids become more resilient. From his unique perspective and wide range of experience, he wrote the book Untethered. Show Highlights:When it comes to discipline and punishment with our kids, we are getting it wrong.Incentives, motivations, and punishmentsRegulation and dysregulation show up differently for different kids. (“Misbehavior is stress behavior.” –Stuart Shanker)Figure out the “why” of the stress—and help them learn to cope.How punishments reinforce failure and create shameUnderstanding upstream vs. downstream behaviorsOur expectations of students under the guise of “academic rigor”The results of our insensitivity to kids’ developmental needsAn issue of development: Kids born in August are 31% more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD than kids born in September.Steps to create upstream solutions to help kids build resilience when they misbehave:Focus on assisting them to get regulated.Get curious, and listen to what’s going on with them. Get them talking to each other to create a community of belonging.The value of taking a classroom to “pause and ponder.”Resources:Connect with Dr. Doug Bolton: Website and UntetheredContact us on social media or through our website for more information on the IEP Learning Center: www.inclusiveeducationproject.org.Thank you for listening!Don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE to the show to receive every new episode delivered straight to your podcast player every Tuesday. If you enjoyed this episode and believe in our message, please help us get the word out about this podcast. Rate and Review this show on Apple Podcasts, Pandora, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your rating and review help other listeners find this show. Be sure to connect with us and reach out with any questions or concerns: Facebook, Instagram, X, IEP Website, and Email.

The Current State of DEI in the US: What is Worth Fighting For?

Nov 11th, 2025 8:00 AM

With so many school holidays fast approaching, there are many kids who need interventions right now, and their parents are panicking. Furthermore, the effects of the government shutdown are being felt as Head Start programs are having to close their doors. Families are scrambling, and we are witnessing significant shifts that are having a profound impact on our kids. Today’s guest shares her perspective on anti-DEI sentiment and the current state of our country, affecting both education and the corporate world. Nadine Jones is a 2003 graduate of Howard Law School, with a background in antitrust and corporate law as a general counsel. In January of 2025, she left that corporate position to work from home as a consultant. As the mother of a special-needs son, she has insight into what parents in the US face today. Show Highlights:Nadine’s perspective on the most immediate risks to legal compliance in the shutting down of DEI programsAnti-DEI sentiment, which causes major problems for contractors whose top customer is the federal governmentDiverse workforces and better marketplace competitionNadine’s advice for educators who want to do the right thing for their students (in lower and higher education)Ethical considerations when funding is not availableWhat was so attractive about eliminating DEI?Nadine’s thoughts about what’s coming and what our attitudes should beThe importance of letting the data ground what we doDEI work can go on, even when it’s not termed “DEI.”Resources:Connect with Nadine JonesWebsite and LinkedIn Contact us on social media or through our website for more information on the IEP Learning Center: www.inclusiveeducationproject.org.Thank you for listening!Don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE to the show to receive every new episode delivered straight to your podcast player every Tuesday. If you enjoyed this episode and believe in our message, please help us get the word out about this podcast. Rate and Review this show on Apple Podcasts, Pandora, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your rating and review help other listeners find this show. Be sure to connect with us and reach out with any questions or concerns: Facebook, Instagram, X, IEP Website, and Email.

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