The Joy of Being Wrong

Mathew Borrett / Illustrator / Competing Timelines

"Instead of following up, I bought a van and drove to Arizona." Mat makes 3D models of destroyed cities that he then flattens onto canvas. He also has collaborated with me on movies, a VR game, and a short story collection. We talked about aging actor technology, buildings that know they're on the ground, being a ruin romantic, and the challenges of 10x procedural videos on Twitch. Intro and Outro music: "Lockdown" by the Gasman. http://mathewborrett.com https://www.instagram.com/yonderbean/ https://toronto2033.com

Hartley Lin / Cartoonist / Parenting

"You have to be in the moment and really enjoy that your kid is this beautiful being who is laughing, but there is another part of you who is like... I've got stuff to do!" Almost immediately after birthing the Doug Wright award-winning graphic novel Young Frances, Hartley Lin had an actual child. His comic Pope Hats #6 consists of one page strips about his parenting experience. We talk about the importance of pushing yourself to experiment with your craft, the peculiar challenge of doing readings for comics, and why a talking ghost is just too easy. Intro/Outro music: "Pretty Pimpin" by Kurt Vile. http://popehats.ca

Scott Waters / Painter / Self-Discipline

"It's such a rewarding feeling, standing under the shower and planning out the next couple of hours." I chat to Scott Waters, who makes gorgeous moody paintings of terrible war machines, about artistic self-discipline, the People Problem, and the solace of melancholy songs on our Rubber and Chocolate friendiversary. Intro and outro music: "Epic Problem" by Fugazi. https://www.scottwaters.ca/ https://www.instagram.com/mr_scott_waters/

Liz Hysen / Musician / Productivity

"I've played shows where I've wanted to start a fight," says Liz, creator of strange and beautiful music for 20+ years. We talk about intermediaries, farmers, algos, ambition, boxing, & humiliation. Intro and outro music: "Skinnies" by Picastro. https://picastro.wordpress.com/ https://picastro.bandcamp.com/